thanks for the intel denkirson =D

Hope you'll do intel for upcoming black ops, and as complete as previous CoD games. I think mod tools will help you

I'm not to sure if I'm going to buy CoD:BO, but if I do I hope I'll be able to count on your GUIDance.

(yea, I'm in a PUN-ish mood today)

thx for the charts!
is it possile for you to explain the effects of attachments such as the "rangefinder" for snipers and "laser sights" for spec-ops?
are they going to affect (lower) the value of damage as they are replacing the "stock barrel"?
and is a soldier's default health = 100? coz a long range shot from bolt-action rifles with oen-tip ammo may not be a one-hit kill...
thx in advance!!!

@shingfd - The bolt action rifle will be a one-hit kill to the body up to about 80 meters.
The bolt action rifle with Rangefinder will be a one-hit kill to the body up to 110 meters.

The Spec-Ops' weapons have multiple effects from the Laser Sight.
First, damage is weakened, multiplied by 0.9x (dropping them down to 22.5 - 13.5) requiring one more shot to kill.
However, accuracy is improved. The cone of fire both from the hip and zoomed is tightened by 0.8x.

Soldier health is 100.

If you have time/interest could you do a crude attachment effects chart?

@DenKirson - thx very much! you're the MAN!

@Colonial_Agent - the only differences i can see is they have different skin... i think they have no differences in the stats

Just a quick mistake ya did. The MP7's rpm should be 0.0666, not 0.666.

Hey Dan, great Chart, as always. Do you know (or anyone else) where I can find a list of the defensive perks + their exact function?

How does Open Tip affect accuracy?

@Wickam25 - It doesn't. Just damage.

@DenKirson - but the description says "it decreases accuracy" plus in after beta changes i've read that open tip ammo gets a +20% recoil on spec ops and +40% on rifleman

http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/9/14/complete_list_of_medal_of/

@Wickam25 - Ah yes, the recoil (not spread/accuracy) shows a small increase. However, the initial recoil is so low that the approximate 1.2x increase on the carbines and 1.1x on assault rifles with Open Tip is hardly noticeable.

With that base 1.25x increase in recoil on the rifles/carbines, the recoil increase will be more significant with a 1.4x from the new Open Tip on top of that.
But even with that increase, the random cone of fire will be a much more decisive factor in accuracy than the steady muzzle climb. Just more incentive to fire in bursts in the case of long fights.

hi denkirson! the game has just been patched recently...
is it possible for you to tell us the new tweaks?
much appreciated!!

@shingfd - or also just HOW to check new tweaks.

They said M4, M16 and M24 have been tweaked (though I think that they have been underpowered becouse I seem to need more hits with M4 and once I didnt oneshot a guy in about 20 meters with M24 clean [standard barrel, double magazine])

Plus on the patch note they say recoil has been increased (and I can confirm this, since before only the first 10 bullets would really make recoil while now all the 30 bullets makes ur iron sight go up and also move left/right more than before)

Thanks Den, If you need files just ask me, or I can send data if you know where I can find stats, etc.

:)

@Wickam25 - Okay then.

Medal of Honor is using the same build of the Frostbite engine as Bad Company 2.
Meaning the same way of getting the data from the PC version of MOH is the same as BC2. This won't work for the 360 or PS3 versions.

Files are sealed away in .fbrb files.
To decompress those, you need QuickBMS and its "fbrb" script.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5xhnqf

1. Extract QuickBMS and the script file somewhere.
2. Click on QuickBMS.
3. In the window, choose the FBRB script file
4. Navigate to the Medal of Honor directory. Find "package/levels/mp_common/level-00.fbrb" (220~ megs in size) and choose that.
5. You need a place to save all the files to. It should be somewhere other than the MOH game folders.
You need a lot of RAM and it will take a minute or two for everything to be extracted.

Now you've got a bunch of files and folders. Within those, navigate to "Objects/Weapons/Handheld/Python" And there will be all the weapon files... also as an initially unreadable format.
If you just send that weapons folder, using Sendspace/Megaupload/whatever, I can use that. Or you can take the next step yourself.

You'll need DBXReader to change them into readable text files. Extract them somewhere
Drag and drop each dbx file on to the dbxreader.exe to convert them into a text file.
Alternatively, paste the weapons/python folder into the dbxreader's accompanied empty "Bad Company" folder and run the exe to convert all the weapon files in there at once.

Now you have the weapon files in txt format, open for reading.

Here the megaupload link of the Python folder. Sorry, I really tried to open with DBXReader but anyway I tried it kept saying "Bad Company not found".

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=10P0E5MY

@Wickam25 - Nice going. Well, all of the numbers from this match up with the beta, so at least we know the Retail version is the same, including the AK47 being slower and weaker than the M16.

However it doesn't appear that any of that big patch changes were made to these files.
It's likely that they did the same thing as in Bad Company 2.
Instead of altering the mp_common file, they changed every level-00 for each multiplayer map folder in order to change the weapon stats.

my levels folder is full of "common_mp_(number)" and "mp_(number)" and "mp_(number)_(gamemode)": which level-00 should I open ?

@Wickam25 - Any of the level-00 files that have had their "Date Modifier" changed to the time of the update. However...

You wouldn't happen to have a "/dist/patch/" folder in there?
Another guy assisted and mentioned that directory.
That may be how MoH does patches. Any files will be overridden by anything in the /patch/ folder.

If you could find in one of the updated fbrb files, "/Levels/mp_whatever/materials_win32.dbx", that'd be cool. That contains the damage multipliers.

The bolt actions still kill in one hit to the body at point blank after the patch, right?
If they don't kill in one body shot at all, these numbers would make more sense.
They apparently have a really bizarre change to the way they handle damage and the new body multipliers would be necessary.

I tried some mp_xx in the dist/patch folder but didnt see any weapons/handheld o.o Though, in the mp_05_tdm I could find materials_win32.dbx :)

Here

Den, I could oneshot with M24 without open tip ammo and without rangefinder from accros the map, NOW, with them both mounted, I COULDNT ONESHOT AT ALL (didnt try any noscope though) Well, at least now there are really few snipers :P

edit: I checked the stats that are linked on the forums and I noticed M4 is still 25/15 but M16A4 (its called m16a2 in your chart) is 20/18 lol... I think they tried to make the M16 a more long range choiche due to low damage drop

Why some weapon files (like M4_firing_ammo2_lasersight) have 2 startdamage/enddamage? And why some others doesnt have the Recoil data? They use recoil data from another setup maybe, like the default one (m4_firing) ?

Im trying to find all differencies since the new patch

@estebanavacado - Shotgun slugs will be a one hit kill to the body out to about 14 meters. 126 - 80 damage. 7 - 20 range.

The laser sight will cut off one degree of spread on the shotgun, going from 3.5 to 2.5.
However, the damage goes from "18 - 12" to "16.2 - 10.8". The tighter grouping is a very good trade-off for needing just one more pellet to hit.